Code | Fault Location | Probable Cause |
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U0416 | Invalid data received — vehicle dynamics control module (Buy Part On Amazon) |
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Table of Contents
- What Does Code U0416 Mean?
- Where is the U0416 sensor located?
- What are the common causes of code U0416?
- What are the symptoms of code U0416?
- Get Help with U0416
What Does Code U0416 Mean?
OBD II fault code U0416 is a generic trouble code that is defined as “Invalid Data Received From Vehicle Dynamics Control Module”, and is set when the PCM (Powertrain Control Module) detects invalid data from one or more wheel speed sensors via the ABS control module.
NOTE #1: While the above definition of code U0416 applies to most modern vehicles in terms of wheel speed/ABS faults, this code can also be set for myriad reasons that do not involve the ABS system, wheel speed sensors, stability control, or any other function that involves the stability of the vehicle. In some cases, this code could set when faults are present in active or air-adjustable suspension systems, or where there is, at best, a tenuous relationship between exterior lighting systems and advanced driver-assist systems. Be aware though that in a large percentage of instances of this code, the root causes are never identified, and may remain unresolved throughout the affected vehicle’s useful life.
NOTE #2: It is important to note that different vehicle manufacturers use different names to describe the same thing. One case in point is the many names under which stability control systems are marketed, and this applies to ABS control modules, as well. Many manufacturers refer to this module as the Vehicle Dynamics Control Module, or something similar, so be sure to consult reliable service information for the affected vehicle to avoid confusion about the terminology used to describe the same thing by different names.
As this code relates to wheel speed sensors and their relationship to ABS braking functions and overall vehicle stability, however, the PCM collects data from a host of sensors that include yaw rate sensors, lateral accelerometers, pitch/roll sensors, and others such as the steering angle sensor to determine whether the vehicle is stable while moving. In practice, the PCM will recognize an unstable condition when it detects (at a minimum)-
- That large discrepancies exist between the rotational speeds of individual wheels
- A large lateral acceleration is occurring, as reported by lateral accelerometers and/or one or more yaw rate sensors
This information is compared to the throttle opening, road speed, engine speed, the currently selected gear, and both the rate and angle of steering inputs, which in a fully functional dynamics control system, should yield calculated wheel speeds that will almost exactly match the actual wheel speeds as measured and reported by the wheel speed sensors.
If the PCM determines that a dangerous condition, such as a potential skid is present, it will use the ABS system to apply selective braking forces (via the stability control system) to individual wheels to force the vehicle into a line that is dictated by the steering angle sensor. For this system to work as intended/designed though, the PCM needs to receive accurate data from all the wheel speed sensors, since this data is the basis upon which corrective action or remedial strategies are built by the PCM and other implicated control modules, such as the ABS control module.
One practical example of implausible data (as it relates to input data from wheel speed sensors), would be if the rotational speeds as measured and reported on one driving wheel and one non-driving wheel vary by more than a maximum allowable threshold. For instance, if one driving wheel is reported to be rotating twice as fast as a non-driving wheel, but no wheels are locked up under braking, or are not spinning under acceleration, the PCM will recognize that the inputs received from at least one wheel speed sensor are implausible.
When this happens, the PCM will recognize that is cannot control the stability of the vehicle effectively, and it will set code U0416 and illuminate one or more relevant warning lights. Note though that the PCM will typically also deactivate the ABS system, as well as others such as stability control, traction control, cruise control, and every other system that uses the ABS system to work, although normal braking functionality will remain available.
Where is the U0416 sensor located?
Since the overall vehicle dynamics control system consists of several dozen parts and components, it is not possible to provide even basic information on the location of all implicated parts on all, or even most applications here. Therefore, it might be more instructive to consider the above diagram that illustrates the basic relationships between all the various subsystems that ultimately comprise the typical vehicle dynamics control system.
As shown here, the ABS system forms the heart of the larger system topology that links all implicated systems in varying degrees of integration. Note though that all subsidiary functions flow outwards from the ABS system, which translates into the fact that when the ABS system receives implausible or inaccurate data, all related systems are affected.
What are the common causes of code U0416?
Possible causes of code U0416 are many and varied and could include causes that do not necessarily involve faults, failures, defects, or malfunctions in systems or components that are related to vehicle stability control functions- refer to NOTE #1 at the top of this article for details. Nonetheless, some known causes of this code as it relates to vehicle stability could include one or more of the following-
- Damaged, burnt, shorted, disconnected, or corroded wiring and/or connectors in any wiring in any circuit that is related to any system that controls vehicle stability
- Defective, faulty, or malfunctioning ABS control module
- Failed or failing PCM, but note that this is a rare event, and the fault must, therefore, be sought elsewhere before any control module is replaced or reprogrammed
- Faulty or defective wheel speed sensor(s)
What are the symptoms of code U0416?
- Stored trouble code and one or more illuminated warning lights
- In some cases, multiple UXXXX (Communication) codes may be present along with U0416
- One or more driver-assist or safety systems may not be available
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Помогите расшифровать ошибки
P0815
U0416
P0021
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P0815 Upshift Switch Circuit (Переключатель выбора передач КПП, повышение передачи — неисправность электрической цепи ) трос замерз (на горячую должно проходить)
U0416 Invalid Data Received From Vehicle Dynamics Control Module (Получены недостоверные данные — блок управления системой курсовой устойчивости ) — Такую ошибку могут давать несколько блоков какие еще цифры после ошибки (U0416-86 например)
P0021 «A» Camshaft Position — Timing Over-Advanced or System Performance Bank 2 (Положение распределительного вала, впуск/левый/передний, банк 2 — слишком ранний угол открывания клапанов / нарушение функционирования системы) -
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Помогите разобраться, сел аккумулятор, прикурил от другой машины, после этого пневма упала, кнопки пневмы не реагируют ни на что. Основный ошибки выше которые не стираются. Блок АВС отключили машина поднялась. Встаёт после поворачивания ключа на ручник. Уже не знаю что копать, проводку вроде всё пересмотрели всё в норме, хотя может что то пропустили. Сейчас предположение накрылся блок раздатки, КАК ЕГО ПРОВЕРИТЬ ? что делать куда копать ?
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надо ехать на диагностику. гадание тут не помогут.
(так прикуривать нельзя) снимать клемму АКБ 5-10 минут и потом заводить.Пока не исправишь не сотрутся они уже исторические.
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Илья подскажи пожалуйста что это означает ?
Я так понимаю блок раздатки накрылся ?! если это так то можно ли прописать бу блок.Диагностика показала.
Р2789-00 TCCM самонастройка сцепления на своём пределе.
Р0806-00 TCCM датчик положения сцепления-диапозон/параметры цепи
U0403-94 ATCM от блока управления раздаточной коробкой получены неверные данные
U0401-94 ATCM от блока управления двиготелем/блока управления силовым агрегатом получены неверные данные.
U0402-94 ATCM от блока управления коробкой передач получены неверные данные.
B1B01-87 VIN электронный ключ. -
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посоветовался с Мастером, его заключение
«провести в сдд замену раздаточной коробки, а там уже будет видно» -
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прикуривали тебе как и чем? думай оттуда
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Замену проводили, не может связаться с блоком, прикуривал от другой машины.
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VCM’ом прочитай авто и перепрошей блоки. Мертвый мангуст не редкость.
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Он живой, все блоки перепрошились а этот не хочет. нет связи пишет.
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Блок раздатки заменили ошибки пропали, но остались по коробки, блок коробки полностью не выходит на связь и не обновляется. как его проверить.
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Помогите разобраться что это означает ?
P2789-00 TCCM Самонастройка сцепления на своём пределе.
P0806-00 TCCM Датчик положения сцепления-диапозон/параметры цепи.
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пипец моторчику раздатки. Моторчик с трудом может заблокировать раздатку.
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Блок откалибровали, моторчик новый. :crying:
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не раз читал про особенности установки моторчика. я бы еще раз его снял и поставил. попытаюсь найти концы.
кан шину проверяли на «зелень»?
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Да проверяли всё чисто, провода прозванивали. моторчик уже раза три четыре переустанавливали.
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Да проверяли всё чисто, провода прозванивали. моторчик уже раза три четыре переустанавливали.
сбросьте ошибки, сделайте процедуру замена РК в SDD, и прочитайте ошибки еще раз.
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На холостых. Датчик положения педали 1 (U 0,74в) Датчик положения педали 2 (U 0,37в.)
Датчик положения педали акселератора 1 (0%) Датчик положения педали акселератора 2 (0%)
Угол педали дросселя 0%
Обороты 3000 Датчик положения педали 1 (U 1.30в) Датчик положения педали 2 (U 0.66в.)
Датчик положения педали акселератора 1 (19.89%) Датчик положения педали акселератора 2 (16.38%)
Угол педали дросселя 19.50%
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EGR в прошивке отключили, клапана EGR не убрали слышал ставят заглушки такое чувство что причина скрывается в них.
Здравствуйте.
U0416 — Invalid Data Received From Vehicle Dynamics Control Module (Получены недостоверные данные — блок управления системой курсовой устойчивости). Проверьте разъем, провода и сам блок управления автомобильной динамикой.
U0434 — Invalid Data Received From Active Roll Control Module (Получены недостоверные данные от блока Active Roll Control).
Попробуйте стереть ошибки, а далее считать ошибки по новой. Проверьте так же горят ли стоп-сигналы, если не горят, то проверьте лягушку (концевик педали тормоза). Так же проверьте датчики положения кузова. Рекомендую проводить диагностику дилерским сканером, при считывании ошибки, он укажет дальнейшие ходы проверки.
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Hi need help I have Discovery 3 my suspension is down and show message
Engine System
HDC Fault system not available did diagnostics and code U0416 is showing
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This maybe one for Gary, @gstuart. He’s done quite a bit with the suspension on the Disco 3, and also the IID code reader on the vehicle.
Over to you, Gary.
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That code is often a symptom of something else possibly steering angle sensor or worn bushes in the front or rear arms
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That code is often a symptom of something else possibly steering angle sensor or worn bushes in the front or rear arms
Thanks John but would this effect the suspension and ride height ?
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Thanks John but would this effect the suspension and ride height ?
Yeah, a lot of faults trigger the suspension to stop working properly, even a poor battery, transmission and engine faults also can do as the systems on the car are interlinked.
What code reader gave the fault?
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Yeah, a lot of faults trigger the suspension to stop working properly, even a poor battery, transmission and engine faults also can do as the systems on the car are interlinked.
What code reader gave the fault?
Thanks John it was a Dephli scanner
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Does it read all the ecu’s on a D3, I think there’s around 17 of them,
Apparently ABS sensors/ wiring and height sensors are another common trigger for that fault
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Does it read all the ecu’s on a D3, I think there’s around 17 of them,
Apparently ABS sensors/ wiring and height sensors are another common trigger for that fault
Is there anyway I can disable the rear passenger ABS sensor I think mite be the one ?
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Is there anyway I can disable the rear passenger ABS sensor I think mite be the one ?
No point as it will throw up a fault and light up the dash
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No point as it will throw up a fault and light up the dash
Cheers Ian I’ll try and get it done tomorrow
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Hi need help I have Discovery 3 my suspension is down and show message
Engine System
HDC Fault system not available did diagnostics and code U0416 is showing
hi
plus what the other guys have said
what year and model is it please, auto or manual
U codes can be ignored and cleared , that’s normally a data error miscommunication and doesn’t mean anything
after the code has been cleared see what codes come back
things to check first
1) brake lights work
2) battery is ok and check what the voltage is with a multimeter with the engine off and on, or get it checked out by halfords
3) does it clear if u turn the engine off and back in again
if i may say don’t try and disable any sensors as believe me apart from being a safety factor the D3 will throw some serious faults and light up the dashboard like a xmas tree
there are around 25 x ecus controlling everything from a bulb to the injection system, that’s the base model , lol
please let me know how u get on, if u get stuck ive got an iid and ur welcome to come to me and will plug it in FOC for u and clear the codes and see what comes up
as mine is locked to mine it will at least clear and read fault codes and live data on other D3
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This maybe one for Gary, @gstuart. He’s done quite a bit with the suspension on the Disco 3, and also the IID code reader on the vehicle.
Over to you, Gary.
seems these iid are such handy things to have, lol
have indeed offered if the op wishes to come over to me will plug mine in foc for him , know what those thieving dealers can be, now want £138 plus vat just to plug a diagnostic reader in , daylight robbery
found out on mine i can on any other D3
• Fault read / clear
• Live values
• Control outputs
• Service / test functions (this includes service interval reset)
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seems these iid are such handy things to have, lol
have indeed offered if the op wishes to come over to me will plug mine in foc for him , know what those thieving dealers can be, now want £138 plus vat just to plug a diagnostic reader in , daylight robbery
found out on mine i can on any other D3
• Fault read / clear
• Live values
• Control outputs
• Service / test functions (this includes service interval reset)
Thank you for that I
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ur very welcome
if u can’t drive it, come back here and we can then start going through bits to check so u can at least get it running again
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ur very welcome
if u can’t drive it, come back here and we can then start going through bits to check so u can at least get it running again
It’s sitting on it’s arse and like riding a skateboard so can’t drive at the moment
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It’s sitting on it’s arse and like riding a skateboard so can’t drive at the moment
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no worries
that code will tell u what miscommunication ecu it had , all that means is it couldn’t read that particular one but should have said after what ecu it is , , ie , suspension or steering etc
all it’s doing is protecting itself and of course annoying as hell
is it ur own code reader , have u cleared it and seen what comes back and does it give u live data
have u tried a hard reset yet
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no worries
that code will tell u what miscommunication ecu it had , all that means is it couldn’t read that particular one but should have said after what ecu it is , , ie , suspension or steering etc
all it’s doing is protecting itself and of course annoying as hell
is it ur own code reader , have u cleared it and seen what comes back
have u tried a hard reset yet
It’s a friends code reader I’ll get to come round tomorrow to redo it thanks again
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It’s a friends code reader I’ll get to come round tomorrow to redo it thanks again
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no worries , remember u posted last week and with these vehicles it’s like banging ur heard against the wall without a code reader
things to check out when he plugs the unit in
battery voltage with a multimeter or the code reader with engine on and off ,
steering wheel angle sensor , ie steering wheel sensor reads zero with the wheel completely straight
abs speed sensor live data , make sure there all the same
hard reset , that’s removing the battery leads off the battery and touching only the leads together for 2 x mins , but of course not touching the battery terminal posts , not trying to tell u how to suck eggs
brake lights are working
then at least we know what figures u come back with
hope that helps and see how u get on
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No point as it will throw up a fault and light up the dash
ur not wrong , when i was working on my front suspension i left a sensor unplugged , blimey i thought it was going to display more lights than a xmas tree , lol
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@stephen Beardsley
just thought is urs an HSE model with the satnav screen please , as there a secret menu in that where u can also check some things
plus on the end of that code there should be another 2 x numbers which identified which ecu it is and can start pinning the fault down