Kinetix 5700 ошибка s55

Table 122 — Fault Code Summary

(1) (2)

Fault Code Type

Description

Standard runtime axis exceptions. The exception can apply to an individual axis or to

FLT Sxx

all axes.

Manufacturer-specific runtime axis exception. The exception can apply to an individual

FLT Mxx

axis or to all axes.

INIT FLT Sxx

Exceptions that prevent normal operation and occur during the initialization process.

INIT FLT Mxx

Exceptions that can prevent normal operation of the drive module and apply to the

NODE FLTxx

entire module and affect all axes.

Exceptions that can prevent normal operation of the drive module, but do not result in

NODE ALARM xx

any action other than reporting the alarm to the controller.

INHIBIT Sxx

Conditions that prevent normal operation and indicate the drive module is prevented

from being enabled.

INHIBIT Mxx

ALARM Sxx

An underlying exception condition that does not result in any action other than

reporting the alarm to the controller.

ALARM Mxx

(3)

SAFE FLTxx

Exception generated by a fault condition detected in the safety function.

(1) Sxx refers to Standard exceptions.

(2) Mxx refers to Manufacturer-specific exceptions.

(3) For troubleshooting 2198-xxxx-ERS3 inverter SAFE FLT fault codes, refer to

page 316

(hardwired safety) or

refer to the Kinetix 5700 Safe Monitor Functions Safety Reference Manual, publication 2198-RM001.

TIP Fault codes triggered by conditions that fall outside factory set limits are identified by

FL at the end of the display message. For example, FLT S07 – MTR OVERLOAD FL.

Fault codes triggered by conditions that fall outside user set limits are identified by UL

at the end of the display message. For example, FLT S08 – MTR OVERLOAD UL.

For fault code descriptions and possible solutions, see the Kinetix 5700 Fault

Codes.xlsx file attached to this publication. For more information about the

file, see

Access the Attachments

SAFE FLT Fault Codes

For troubleshooting 2198-xxxx-ERS4 inverter SAFE FLT fault codes, refer to

the Kinetix 5700 Safe Monitor Functions Safety Reference Manual,

publication 2198-RM001.

Rockwell Automation Publication 2198-UM002G-EN-P — February 2019

Troubleshoot the Kinetix 5700 Drive System

Troubleshoot the Safe Torque-off Function

page 329

(integrated safety). For troubleshooting 2198-xxxx-ERS4 inverter SAFE FLT fault codes,

on

page

13.

Chapter 7

on

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This manual links to the Kinetix 5700 Servo Drive Fault Codes, publication

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Kinetix 5700 Servo Drives User

Manual

Catalog Numbers 2198-P031, 2198-P070, 2198-P141, 2198-P208, 2198-RP088, 2198-RP200,

2198-RP263, 2198-RP312, 2198-D006-ERS3, 2198-D012-ERS3, 2198-D020-ERS3,

2198-D032-ERS3, 2198-D057-ERS3, 2198-S086-ERS3, 2198-S130-ERS3, 2198-S160-ERS3,

2198-S263-ERS3, 2198-S312-ERS3, 2198-D006-ERS4, 2198-D012-ERS4, 2198-D020-ERS4,

2198-D032-ERS4, 2198-D057-ERS4, 2198-S086-ERS4, 2198-S130-ERS4, 2198-S160-ERS4,

2198-S263-ERS4, 2198-S312-ERS4, 2198T-W25K-ER, 2198-CAPMOD-2240, 2198-CAPMOD-DCBUS-IO,

2198-DCBUSCOND-RP312

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HI  , I would like to ask you for your opinion 

THIS IS MY PROBLEM WITH THE kinetix 6500 

The equipment was working fine , but now i cant make to servo move with the program, cant run the test or autotuning 

Status in front of servo drives say running.

Everything is green, no errors, 

 when I activate the MSO  I can hear a click  at servodrive, but the servo is not energized, because i dont hear the usual noise when the servo is energized, I have check the cables and conectors, everythig is fines, I check the servo resistence , no shortcuts or open lines, The wierd part is when the servos are in the running state i can move by hand, they are supossed to be locked.

after that I activate the home MAH, or test or autotuning , or a direct command ,and then it  fails  When i try to jog . move, test or  autotuning  the servo it says s55 velocity error or excess positon error, i can not get servo to move at all

I can see the position from the encoder back to the plc. I have turned the servo and i see the position at actualposition
 

Before the equipment was working , moving , I just swith it off one day, and the next day I couldnt make it move

Best regards 

I have added the programm as an attachment

k6500.ACD

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Sounds like you have a problem with the encoder. The drive thinks everything is ok until it tries to command a move, then is doesn’t see the encoder feedback changing. Check the connections, then with the servo off, turn the shaft by hand. You should see the actual position tag changing.

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Hi  JRoss

This is part of what I have check

I did,  and i can see the encoder readigs at actualposiotion tag changing  , The servo was moving  before, responding to autotuning, test, MAH, MAJ , MAM  instructions and direct comands, I have check  lines with encoder and power lines  and readings, and they look normal. All lights are green,  the bus  led is green and steady, 

When the servo is activated with MSO  instruction, the servo is loose, I can turn it by hand, no alarms.  but when I try to move it with MAH or MAJ , for example  , then the S55 appears,  

I have also check the inputs  L1  L2  L3  with the bus +  and bus-   and i have normal readings,    also  U V W  with bus + and bus —  and also normal readings,  with my muitimeter to check diode at rectification and BJTs  .   And when the kinetix is on  I get around  640 volts DC ant BUS + and Bus —

I was thinking that it could be the BJTs that are not fireing signal to the servo and the error might be because  the dirves tries to move the servo, and it doesnt move , sp there is a difference and gives the s55 error.

I have check the BJT  installed, with multimeter, the block of BJT  give normal readings UVW  with Bus+ and Bus — , I dond see shorts  just the normal readings of diodes, 

 Best Regards

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12 hours ago, JRoss said:

Sounds like you have a problem with the encoder. The drive thinks everything is ok until it tries to command a move, then is doesn’t see the encoder feedback changing. Check the connections, then with the servo off, turn the shaft by hand. You should see the actual position tag changing.

Hi  JRoss

This is part of what I have check

I did,  and i can see the encoder readigs at actualposiotion tag changing  , The servo was moving  before, responding to autotuning, test, MAH, MAJ , MAM  instructions and direct comands, I have check  lines with encoder and power lines  and readings, and they look normal. All lights are green,  the bus  led is green and steady, 

When the servo is activated with MSO  instruction, the servo is loose, I can turn it by hand, no alarms.  but when I try to move it with MAH or MAJ , for example  , then the S55 appears,  

I have also check the inputs  L1  L2  L3  with the bus +  and bus-   and i have normal readings,    also  U V W  with bus + and bus —  and also normal readings,  with my muitimeter to check diode at rectification and BJTs  .   And when the kinetix is on  I get around  640 volts DC ant BUS + and Bus —

I was thinking that it could be the BJTs that are not fireing signal to the servo and the error might be because  the dirves tries to move the servo, and it doesnt move , sp there is a difference and gives the s55 error.

I have check the BJT  installed, with multimeter, the block of BJT  give normal readings UVW  with Bus+ and Bus — , I dond see shorts  just the normal readings of diodes, 

 Best Regards

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When you are turning the servo by hand does the position change correctly? In both directions? When you use MSO to turn the servo on and can turn it by hand, does it fault out?

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1 hour ago, JRoss said:

When you are turning the servo by hand does the position change correctly? In both directions? When you use MSO to turn the servo on and can turn it by hand, does it fault out?

Yes, I have turned it  in both directions,  the lecture or readings of encoder  at actualposition tag  increases and decreases the revolutions normally

Yes , when the MSO is on, I can turn the servo by hand,  but no more than 1 rev , after  or around 1 revolution the fault appears s55,  

I can move it back and forth , but no more than 1 rev, after that it fails and shows s55  velocity error, it doest fell hard 

I have check the power rail  terminals,  the Dc volts lines in power rail takes DC to the output side of the kinetix 6500,  I was thinking  that there may not be DC 640 volt , but there it is in power rail

Best Regards

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Is this a new install or an exisiting system?

What is the full part number of your servo motor you have connected to the K6500?

Are you using the hardwired enable input on the drive?

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OK, try this…

The control module on the drive is removable. Loosen the screw and rock the module in and out of the connection 5 or 6 times. This will clean up the connections between the control module and the power module. This is a known issue with the 6500 that I have dealt with personally on two occasions. Different symptoms both times, but weird stuff that didn’t make sense.

If that doesn’t work, next step is to start swapping out parts, including the cables.

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Kinetix 6500, Fault S55 => (a) Improperly sized drive or motor, (b) Mechanical system out of specification.  The servo controller is telling you that when it tries to move the load to the commands you have given it (i.e., position, velocity, acceleration, etc.), that it detects this cannot be achieved properly.

Have you modeled the load in Motion Works, to verify that the mechanical engineers properly sized the motor and gearbox and servo controller?

A-B/Rockwell servos often typically tune «hot».  What allows you to tune and jog the servo without issue may be covering up the inability to command to position.  

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19 hours ago, Donovanr said:

Is this a new install or an exisiting system?

What is the full part number of your servo motor you have connected to the K6500?

Are you using the hardwired enable input on the drive?

Is an existing system

MPL-B1530U-EJ72AA

Yes Im using 2 signals from connector DB 44   the  the input for enable  and the input for home sensor

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19 hours ago, JRoss said:

OK, try this…

The control module on the drive is removable. Loosen the screw and rock the module in and out of the connection 5 or 6 times. This will clean up the connections between the control module and the power module. This is a known issue with the 6500 that I have dealt with personally on two occasions. Different symptoms both times, but weird stuff that didn’t make sense.

If that doesn’t work, next step is to start swapping out parts, including the cables.

Ok I did,

and also cleaned the conectors, they look shiny like new, 

I ran a test but no changes  , still fails

I have another servomotor with cables , Ill change them and Ill let you now  

Best Regards

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8 hours ago, kaiser_will said:

Kinetix 6500, Fault S55 => (a) Improperly sized drive or motor, (b) Mechanical system out of specification.  The servo controller is telling you that when it tries to move the load to the commands you have given it (i.e., position, velocity, acceleration, etc.), that it detects this cannot be achieved properly.

Have you modeled the load in Motion Works, to verify that the mechanical engineers properly sized the motor and gearbox and servo controller?

A-B/Rockwell servos often typically tune «hot».  What allows you to tune and jog the servo without issue may be covering up the inability to command to position.  

The servo in not moving something heavy,  is very light the load

You can feell  that the servomotor shaft    is even  harder to turn than the load ,   the load is very very soft

The servomotor is an MPL-B1530u-EJ72aa

The servo drive is a 6 kw  and in the manual Design User,  it says that is OK to use this servo with this servodrive, is in the list of useable motors

Right now the servo is not connected to the load, and Is displaying S55 any way,  I have tried to do Home to sensor, , MAJ  , MAM, Direct commands , with out being connected the servo to the load

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23 hours ago, JRoss said:

OK, try this…

The control module on the drive is removable. Loosen the screw and rock the module in and out of the connection 5 or 6 times. This will clean up the connections between the control module and the power module. This is a known issue with the 6500 that I have dealt with personally on two occasions. Different symptoms both times, but weird stuff that didn’t make sense.

If that doesn’t work, next step is to start swapping out parts, including the cables.

Hi JRoss

I have another  2094 BMP5 but this one is  with sercos in another machine,   I have taken the servomotor  and cables and plug it with this equipment in sercos

And the servo gets really hard to move the  servomotor shaft  by hand , I just tried a little bit to move it, when the MSO  is activated from direct command instructions. Im using the same servomotor with the same cables  at the s kinetix 6500 .  Is responding  very nice to MAH  and MAJ, with sercos servodrive

So I think it may be the IBJT s that are not fireing the signal to the servo, but I have check the U V W vs   Bus+   Bus-  ,  las time Ive check and the reading of diode were fine, no shortcuts

U   V W    vs      BUS —     READINGS     diode

0.448        U — BUS+                OL    WHEN INVERTED LEADS or wires AT MULTIMETER

0.448        V — BUS+                OL    WHEN INVERTED LEADS or wires AT MULTIMETER

0.448       W — BUS+                 OL   WHEN INVERTED LEADS or wires AT MULTIMETER

U V W      vs       BUS +    READINGS  diode

0.448        U — BUS+                OL    WHEN INVERTED LEADS or wires AT MULTIMETER

0.448        V — BUS+                OL    WHEN INVERTED LEADS or wires AT MULTIMETER

0.448       W — BUS+                 OL   WHEN INVERTED LEADS or wires AT MULTIMETER

I have also check the readings of the IBJT s at kinetix 6000 sercos and the same readings of UVW vs BUS +  and BUS-

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U   V W    vs      BUS —     READINGS     diode

0.448        U — BUS-                OL    WHEN INVERTED LEADS or wires AT MULTIMETER

0.448        V — BUS-                OL    WHEN INVERTED LEADS or wires AT MULTIMETER

0.448       W — BUS-                 OL   WHEN INVERTED LEADS or wires AT MULTIMETER

U V W      vs       BUS +    READINGS  diode

0.448        U — BUS+                OL    WHEN INVERTED LEADS or wires AT MULTIMETER

0.448        V — BUS+                OL    WHEN INVERTED LEADS or wires AT MULTIMETER

0.448       W — BUS+                 OL   WHEN INVERTED LEADS or wires AT MULTIMETER

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The alarm you are getting means the encoder feedback doesn’t match the drive command to the motor. I usually see this when there is a problem with the encoder (damage, wiring, polarity). But it sounds like you have a problem with the motor side of the drive, not the encoder.

Since you tested the motor and cables with another drive, then there is something wrong with the 6500, either in the control module or the power module. You’ll have to contact your distributor.

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Rockwell Automation Publication 2094-UM002E-EN-P — May 2012

Chapter 8

Troubleshooting the Kinetix 6200 and Kinetix 6500 Drive System

Fault Codes

These fault code tables are designed to help you resolve anomalies. When a fault
is detected, the four-character status indicator scrolls the display message. This is
repeated until the fault code is cleared.

For information on troubleshooting SAFE FLT fault codes, refer to the
Kinetix 6200 and Kinetix 6500 Safe Speed Monitoring Safety Reference Manual,
publication

2094-RM001

.

Table 80 — Fault Code Summary

Fault Code Type

Description

FLT Sxx

Standard runtime anomalies.

FLT Mxx

INIT FLT Sxx

Anomalies that prevent normal operation and occur during the initialization process.

INIT FLT Mxx

NODE FLTxx

Anomalies that prevent normal operation of all drives on the power rail.

NODE ALARM xx

Anomalies that prevent normal operation of all drives on the power rail, but do not
result in any action other than reporting the alarm to the controller.

ALARM Sxx
ALARM Mxx

Warnings of conditions that may affect normal operation, but do not result in any
action other than reporting the alarm to the controller.

TIP

Fault codes triggered by conditions that fall outside factory set limits are identified by FL at the end of
the display message. For example, FLT S03…MTR OVERSPEED FL.

Fault codes triggered by conditions that fall outside user set limits are identified by UL at the end of
the display message. For example, FLT S04…MTR OVERSPEED UL.

Table 81 — FLT Sxx Fault Codes

Four-character
Display Message

RSLogix 5000
Fault Message

Problem or Symptom

Potential Cause

Possible Resolution

FLT S02…MTR COMMUTATION

Illegal Hall State

State of Hall feedback inputs is
incorrect.

Improper connections.

Check Hall wiring at motor

feedback (MF) connector.

Check 5V power supply to the

encoder.

FLT S03…MTR OVERSPEED FL

Motor Overspeed

Motor speed has exceeded 125% of maximum rated speed.

Check cables for noise.
Check tuning.

FLT S04…MTR OVERSPEED UL
(Kinetix 6500 drives only)

Motor Overspeed

Motor speed has exceeded user velocity limits.

FLT S05…MTR OVERTEMP FL nn

Motor Overtemperature

The motor thermostat, motor
thermistor, or encoder temperature
sensor indicates that the motor factory
temperature limit has been exceeded.
The nn sub-code is defined as follows:

High motor ambient
temperature and/or
Excessive Current.

Operate within (not above)

the continuous torque rating
for the ambient temperature.

Lower ambient temperature or

increase motor cooling.

01: Motor Thermostat or Thermistor.

Motor wiring error.

Check motor wiring at motor
feedback (MF) connector.

02: Encoder Temperature Sensor.

Incorrect motor selection.

Verify the proper motor has been
selected.

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  • 59, Rockwell Automation Publication 2198-UM002G-EN-P — February 2019 59 Plan the Kinetix 5700 Drive System Installation Chapter 2 Accessory Module Selection The requirements for when to use accessory modules vary depending on whether your system is powered by the 2198-Pxxx DC-bus power supply or 2198-RPxxx regenerative bus supply. 8720MC-RPS regenerative power supplies follow the same requirements as 2198-RPxxx regenerative bus supplies for acc…

  • 404, 404 Rockwell Automation Publication 2198-UM002G-EN-P — February 2019 Appendix D Maximum Motor Cable Lengths for Kinetix 5700 Power Supplies Regenerative Bus Supply Configurations 2198-RPxxx regenerative bus supplies have limited maximum drive-to-motor cable length when DC-bus regulation is enabled. However, the DC Bus can be extended up to 70 m (230 ft) to remote clusters of Kinetix 5700 inverters.…

  • 11, Allen-Bradley Kinetix 5700 Rockwell Automation Publication 2198-UM002G-EN-P — February 2019 11 Preface This manual provides detailed installation instructions for mounting and wiring your Kinetix® 5700 power supplies, single-axis inverters, dual-axis inverters, and accessory modules. Also included is system configuration with the Studio 5000 Logix Designer® application, integration of your drive modules with a Logix 5000™ controller, system startup, and troubleshooting. Also provided in this …

  • 352, 352 Rockwell Automation Publication 2198-UM002G-EN-P — February 2019 Appendix A Interconnect Diagrams In this example, three-phase AC input power is fed to two 8720MC-RPS065 units in a leader/follower configuration. The DC-bus (TB1) terminals connect to the Kinetix 5700 DC-bus via the DC-bus conditioner module because the system current exceeds 104 A. Figure 175 — 8720MC-RPS065 Leader/Follower Units with Kinetix 5700 Drive System E/N L1 L2…

  • 141, Allen-Bradley Kinetix 5700 Rockwell Automation Publication 2198-UM002G-EN-P — February 2019 141 Connect the Kinetix 5700 Drive System Chapter 5 Wiring Requirements Wires must be copper with 75 °C (167 °F) minimum rating. Phasing of main AC power is arbitrary and earth ground connection is required for safe and proper operation. Refer to Power Wiring Examples on page 343 for interconnect diagrams. Table 65 — DC-bus Power Supply Wiring Requirements IMPORTANT The National Electrical Code and local electrical codes …

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